and then the nra comes back to its fund raising. the people concerned with the gun horrors lose interest. how do you sustain a balanced look at gun control and gun ownership in this society. >> i think that because we have to keep that message out there, all of the time, and not wait for a tragedy like this that happened. >> when you think ablt it, a couple of weeks ago we had a shooting with an nfl player. one of the commentators. he couldn't believe the hate mail he got. he couldn't believe how people came down after him. that's why people are afraid to speak out. they're afraid of the nra. they're afraid of the large lobbyists. and that's the same thing, chris, as the members of congress. whether republican or democrat, you see that that they cow behind and not getting anything done instead of standing up. they're afraid they're going to lose their next election. if we can save a whole bunch of lives, isn't that what we're supposed to be in congress for? it's not taking away the right of someone to own a gun. >> next up, you were